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#26 2026-01-07 16:20:04

seth
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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 should™ force the X11 backend and thus xwayland and the plan is to figure why that doesn't work and whether it's generally SDL related or specific to this HelloWorld process/lime

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#27 2026-01-07 20:46:01

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

launches and works fine with or without x11

❯ blobby 
/home/MT/.local/share/blobby/gfx created
/home/MT/.local/share/blobby/sounds created
/home/MT/.local/share/blobby/scripts created
/home/MT/.local/share/blobby/backgrounds created
/home/MT/.local/share/blobby/rules created
/home/MT/.local/share/blobby/replays created
Wed Jan  7 21:43:54 2026 SocketLayer: Host name is ArchMyBeloved
Wed Jan  7 21:43:54 2026 SocketLayer: One of my ip addresses: 192.168.100.30
pingblobbyvolley.de
ping167.235.181.41
ping0.0.0.0
got ping response by "167.235.181.41:4321", trying to connect
Wed Jan  7 21:43:54 2026 SocketLayer: Host name is ArchMyBeloved
Wed Jan  7 21:43:54 2026 SocketLayer: One of my ip addresses: 192.168.100.30
got ping response by "116.203.57.6:12345", trying to connect
Wed Jan  7 21:43:54 2026 SocketLayer: Host name is ArchMyBeloved
Wed Jan  7 21:43:54 2026 SocketLayer: One of my ip addresses: 192.168.100.30
connection accepted from 167.235.181.41:4321
connection accepted from 116.203.57.6:12345
server blobby-liga.de at 167.235.181.41 is a blobby server
server blobbyvolley.de at 116.203.57.6 is a blobby server
Wed Jan  7 21:43:59 2026 SocketLayer: Host name is ArchMyBeloved
Wed Jan  7 21:43:59 2026 SocketLayer: One of my ip addresses: 192.168.100.30
loaded rules BV2 Default Rules by Blobby Volley 2 Developers from default.lua
Wed Jan  7 21:44:00 2026 SocketLayer: Host name is ArchMyBeloved
Wed Jan  7 21:44:00 2026 SocketLayer: One of my ip addresses: 192.168.100.30
pingblobbyvolley.de
ping167.235.181.41
ping0.0.0.0
got ping response by "116.203.57.6:12345", trying to connect
Wed Jan  7 21:44:01 2026 SocketLayer: Host name is ArchMyBeloved
Wed Jan  7 21:44:01 2026 SocketLayer: One of my ip addresses: 192.168.100.30
got ping response by "167.235.181.41:4321", trying to connect
Wed Jan  7 21:44:01 2026 SocketLayer: Host name is ArchMyBeloved
Wed Jan  7 21:44:01 2026 SocketLayer: One of my ip addresses: 192.168.100.30
connection accepted from 116.203.57.6:12345
connection accepted from 167.235.181.41:4321
server blobbyvolley.de at 116.203.57.6 is a blobby server
server blobby-liga.de at 167.235.181.41 is a blobby server

❯ SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 blobby
Wed Jan  7 21:44:13 2026 SocketLayer: Host name is ArchMyBeloved
Wed Jan  7 21:44:13 2026 SocketLayer: One of my ip addresses: 192.168.100.30

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#28 2026-01-07 20:57:01

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

You did configure it to use SDL (iirc it defaults to native OpenGL)?
(There's certainly no SDL warning in that output)

https://community.openfl.org/t/could-no … vice/10503
The bug is old but sounds lime uses a built-in version of SDL (so the message isn't coming from any system SDL), explaining pretty much why it would not work on wayland and also cannot be controlled w/ the environment variable.
And I suspect we can forget about preloading libraries for windows binaries lol

When you run Xwayland you'll hopefully get a rootfull xwayland server (nested X11 server) - you could try to run the helloworld example in that.

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#29 2026-01-08 20:25:03

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

so what can i do?

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#30 2026-01-08 20:29:05

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

seth wrote:

When you run Xwayland you'll hopefully get a rootfull xwayland server (nested X11 server) - you could try to run the helloworld example in that.

Kinda like running Xephyr on X11.

If that doesn't convince it you can file a bug against lime because it doesn't work on wayland.

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#31 2026-01-08 20:56:39

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

is it an issue on hyprland's end or not? since a friend of mine got it working on plasma

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#32 2026-01-08 21:13:53

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

Plasma on X11 or plasma on wayland?
Using a native wayland window or xwayland?

And do they have an nvidia GPU (only, hybrid but plasma running on intel doesn't count)?

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#33 2026-01-10 10:48:10

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

Hi, I'm the other user!

seth wrote:

Plasma on X11 or plasma on wayland?

Plasma session is wayland.

seth wrote:

Using a native wayland window or xwayland?

Both run fine for me, this is what I'm running:

# run via xwayland (default)
wine Export/windows/bin/HelloWorld.exe
# run via wayland
DISPLAY= wine Export/windows/bin/HelloWorld.exe  

But it seems for MTu08, the default is wayland instead of xwayland.

seth wrote:

And do they have an nvidia GPU (only, hybrid but plasma running on intel doesn't count)?

No nvidia gpu, just intel igpu.

seth wrote:

SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 should™ force the X11 backend and thus xwayland and the plan is to figure why that doesn't work and whether it's generally SDL related or specific to this HelloWorld process/lime

Since a windows build of SDL is running via wine, is it even expected to know what SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 should mean? Wouldn't it expect a windows driver?

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#34 2026-01-10 15:49:57

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

Since a windows build of SDL is running via wine, is it even expected to know what SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 should mean?

Yes, the comment predates my realization that

The bug is old but sounds lime uses a built-in version of SDL

The criitcal difference will likely be

No nvidia gpu, just intel igpu.

sad

My best guess right now is to try a rootfull xwayland server (as apparently things work on X11, but actual X11 oc. also loads the nvidia DDX which afaict is not going to happen w/ xwayland)

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#35 2026-01-11 12:25:50

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

excuse me for the question but what now?

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#36 2026-01-11 14:03:51

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Re: libEGL warning: pci id for fd 94: 10de:2584, driver (null)

* Test the nested rootfull xwayland server
* File a bug against lime
* Use X11
* Try to "export SDL_RENDER_DRIVER=software; wine HelloWorld.exe"

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